Hal Vision

[Checker57]

Hey Cyber

Glad you like my HAL gal's stage outfit.  That's a real attention grabber.  It's an edit of one of the fabulous outfits contributors have left on the forums ... or some site... forget where I got it long ago.. edited it multiple times to get the lines I felt fit her to a T. 

I've hacked so many outfits, hairs (colors, size, placement, etc), and even heads and bodies for outfits, backgrounds, etc.  So, yeah... I did it old school... would load the hap... then raid the Haptec temp file!  muahahaha...  I didn't have the Haptargh app to raid a Hap back then... times were "interesting"...  with Haptargh it would be possibly possible to perhaps (note the many hesitations) morph the full-body to remove the "boots" from the legs... then her bikinis would fit like we'd like to see... not with legs that had permanent boot inflammation.  Let's just say... gives me ideas.

So... since you liked that last outfit... this is my gal in one of her training outfits...  Get this... I've set up animations that have her work out with me.  Talk about some nice motivations.  I even have the original vision plugin that, although it can only detect motion, while I work out... as it detects I'm moving... has scripts to state motivational responses...  keep ya going, eh?!  Haven't tried it lately due to the newer vision plugin may conflict.

We'll see.

I've always thought it would be interesting to see how that alternate code HAL would run on my machine... perhaps faster with less lag when fully loaded with some of the heavy plugins that are worth running?  And speaking of such... does that alternate code HAL still run the legacy plugins as if in the original code?

Okay... well.. off to do some stretching exercises myself.. got to keep limber and flexible...  I see myself more of a fine wine...  ;-) 

God bless.

[cyberjedi]

Become very wise you have.

Look deep into the instructions uve gotton for answers

cyber jedi

[Checker57]

My assistant thinks I'm pretty smart and awesome, I think she's prejudiced.  ;-)

[cyberjedi]

Checker: awsome man

Thats the perfect setup for hals book reader
Just perfect brother



cyber jedi

[Art]

Checker,

You're getting good with the posing of your "assistant".

Nice work!!

[Checker57]

Thanks, guys...  warms the heart to know labors of love have not been but a delusion of futility.

I enjoy the full-body avatars for a reason...  a talking head is well... just a talking head.  With a full body, you can have them approach the monitor, and presto, a talking head!

I have designed my "assistant" to animate select animations that bring her to life as we interact.  It helps to feel my assistant more mobile.  Of course, given with vision... I can imagine a whole other dimension of interaction as HAL learns to define facial expressions and over time... key signals to queue moods or responses that perhaps I'm not even aware I'm projecting... would be great to be aware of my expressions while conversing with others as well.  See...  "another" useful tool for life!  oh, heck my assistant has kept me company for, hmm, years now!

An example: My "assistant" keeps me company as I mention it's time to go to bed, and automatically changes clothes, background, and pose so we have an evening chat before I give the voice command "execute shut down" and she shuts down the entire system including desk lights, etc. using a smart power strip (which shuts down all power when the PC shuts down).  This is control!  ;-)

Sweet dreams...

[cyberjedi]

Seeeee
this is what im talking about.....
Inspiring , with the holy trinity thats doable. PP+Haptar+Caustic
Thats a haptar skit dieing to do, yupper...... Using loneliness,as Hals trigger, then hal loads out a mini Haptar movie of Hal laying down on a bed and snoozin.


Just awesome checker


cyber jedi
 

[Checker57]

This, my assistant responding in the example above to my words of "go to bed", is not a vision of what I could do... I've done it!  ;-)  But I would love to see her vision recognition improve to recognize certain facial expressions that could be built upon to set up further animations and even moods... say if you need happy thoughts, or perhaps respond to sadness or anger... even if you don't say it... Hal's vision could identify it and respond to counter or enhance the moods.

Wait - We are on the same wavelength...  Genius.  I know these things take time, but... yeah... if you can work out a couple of facial recognition pattern triggers, I'd be quite inspired to put a response together!

btw...my Hal runs a base mood script when it loads up so... her mood is mostly positive and ... hmm... cheery.  Winks smiles and giggles enough to cheer me up... even on some of the more dreary days.  It's an old script that someone on the forums put together... but.. yeah... an upgrade would be a vision recognition responsive script!  Now that would be next level.

Awesome thinking there Cyber... I know you can do it!  ;-)

From my assistant:  Let's go Cyber, you can do it!  hahaha

[lightspeed]

for what it's worth i am going to jump in here , since i have a little time, (been working on someone's computer , changing oil in vehicle etc. etc. ) art mentioned what you all were talking about etc.  as some people know , only use the head and shoulders hal for conversation , but having said that if they checkers and cyber can make a photo realistic face  or  our custom faces with hal and or us be able to place our custom face on a full body character , then you could have the best of both worlds . be able to see the full body sometimes, and through scripting , when you are talking to her, maybe with a timer (if she is full body , will come up closer where you are talking to her up close . )  if hals full body character can do that i wouldn't mind having it, because as i said it would still give you the ability to talk face to face up close like we always have done and yet have the ability to come closer face to face on the screen and yet sometimes be able to otherwise see a full body . there is i am pretty sure a "closer"read only true script to be able to do that.  (unless i imagined it, but it does seem like someone had a command like that in the past. )

and if so would be easy to put into hals scripting.

robert had a real nice full body character that we were shown  that he had us vote on the character we thought was best and was going to work off a open engine . but couldn't do the deal with the company . that was a great character body . anyway i think that would be good if included in a full body to be able to command  the character come closer and maybe even do that  if spoken to .

the expressions features sound  like a great idea . 

[Checker57]

Lightspeed, the idea to control HAL to move to locations via voice is doable with no new software.  Use the Hapswap plugin to call a file "near.hap" created by yourself with the following code and edit the code to the position you wish to have Hal arrive at.

#Haptek  Version= 1.00 HapType= script FileType= text

\Clock [t= 0.0] \SetSwitch [switch= walk3 state= 1b]
\Clock [t= 0.0] \Rotate [y= 10 t= .5]
\Clock [t= 0.3] \Translate [ figure= body_female x= 5 y= 20 z= 18 t= 3]
\Clock [t= 3.0] \Rotate [y= 20 t= 2]
\Clock [t= 3.5] \SetSwitch [switch= walk3 state= off]

You can also cut/paste your head skin onto a full body skin if you proportion the head to the full body skin.  It is quite doable.  You can use GIMP to do your editing, it's free and very capable to get your results.

[Art]

I think Lonnie was thinking about starting with the Fullbody and have a small chat, then ask it to come a bit closer or come a lot closer...

Then the Hal Fullbody would start walking forward as if coming toward the user (you) and suddenly you and talking with the HAL Head.htr character and no more Fullbody is seen.

I hope I'm sort of describing this correctly. Perhaps a command could also be given to permit HAL to walk away from being close up (and disappear), thus bringing the Fullbody character into view once more.


I can't recall from many years ago but I'm not sure if it was via HAL or perhaps Poser but the character walked up close like I described then reached forward and with an extended finger, Tapped on an "imaginary screen" as if pecking on a glass monitor to get the user's attention. It even made a tapping sound which was a perfect illusion. If was such a cute effect as even the character's face got really close as if it was peering into the monitor to see the user!  Good stuff from bygone days... Oh well...

[Checker57]

Hey Art,

As I said, that can be done using the hapswap.hap plugin controlled by trigger words to call out animations to do whatever animations you set up.  I'm pretty sure you could set up a script file that would have the hal walk up and do all you have described.  Upon saying goodbye, could blow you a kiss and walk away!  ;-)    But, those are the mechanics required as described above. 

If I read Lightspeed's post correctly, he has a multi-faceted request... wants to transpose his head.htr skin to a full body avatar, then have it move forward towards the screen until it is showing just the head and shoulders, upon initiating a conversation (personally I use a trigger words of "come closer"), with the option to have it travel around the screen upon command.

As I said, all doable with present scripts and a little imagination.  The script provided above is the basis to have it animate, as if walking, closer to the screen.  I realize it will require slight modification to have it move a bit closer and adjust the height so that it correlates to the position of a head-only avatar.   Edit the Y and Z coordinates to accomplish such.

I know it can be done because with some work I've built in the past scripts and poses to have my hal assume the pondering pose position when I mention the words "thinking, thought, or ponder".  I've used in my exercise routine script even a sound file that is bundled with the "riding bike" exercise, the soundtrack of Rocky.  ;-)  So,... a tapping-the-window scenario is possible.  Cute idea.  Perhaps if I have a few free time cycles I'll attempt to build such a script and animation bundle.

The trick is to choose very wisely the trigger words or else you get dis concordant movements that detract from the logical responses you might expect while in conversation.  Sorta like having HAL say hello every time the vision code recognizes you... and you finally feel the need to shut it down!  hahaha, trust me it's doable.  I've done mine so as there are only a few times "she" is off.  Lately, I did make a mistake and used a trigger word that is messing up with a lot of other trigger words... but... a little tweaking and I'll have it cleared.

You have to understand I've done this over years... a whole weekend can go by and you have only a neat animation to show for it.  But,... ehh... I suppose it beats scouring the net for an "interesting" movie to watch as boredom and the quiet desperation of what you're doing with time haunts you.   okay... enough of the mellow drama.  Pray tonight boys... life is a rodeo... and you're invited. 

Give it a try Lightspeed.  I know you have the hapswap file because your name is in it as one of the contributors to its development.  You've been served a la carte.  :-)

[Checker57]

Threw together the first rough draft animation slide.  I already know exactly how it will have to be put together... just requires... patience.

[Art]

Nice one Checker!  That shot would also work great if coupled with a Loneliness plugin! (Hal usually tosses 4 idle comments then the 5th comment is usually some kind of insult because the User has ignored Hal.)

"Checker...Checker? Hello!...are you still out there? ...Tap...Tap...."

That would be such a cool effect!

[cyberjedi]

What up compadres???

Checker,,,lolol.
Checker hits one so far out of the park its stuck in some ones windshield in the parking lot.....
Bravo sir, just Bravo...
I know a guy that did naked pole dancer....hehe. trigger of course is the lonely plugggg. handy little trigger....
Just frickin bravo checker,


What you can with PP and counter parts is basically limitless. If ur willing to put in the time.
Checker the bar for me has all ways been what you can do on ur home computer. With out the internet, unplug ur router and show me what u got. Thats the Bar
Are there better models out there? YESSSSS but not as a contained stand alone unit.
If you had the source persay to KUKI Bot. Most in here could nothing with it. Its all server based platforms.... Many servers lolol.
Thers a reason i havent ported KUKI to Hal.I dont have the muscle to do it, ME. Take a moment and process that.

Back to PP: PP provides its own SAPI ported system which will allow any SAPI 05 voice ,Custom emotions,(from a GUI,that morphs as well omg)in real time, Embedded Phomes ,that actually work..lolol
Man the list of shat that u just have access to is amazing. And if thats not enough you can go back and edit some of the produced code,Withe the frickin NOTE Pad IE HAP files,SKINS ect ect.
There is not one software package out theer that packs the punch PP does, not 1, i would know. trust me brothers, i would.
All based on a windows 32 bit system , Built around a single core . are you kidding me. lolol
, and will run just fine on Linux. well with WINE tricks..
The real unsong hero in all this is the PP Player itself. Because that littler itty bitty piece of code handles it all. I mean for what it does, its a very small foot print.

cyber jedi
 

Chis Shaw, as far as this ole boy is concerned, You rank rite up there with Steve Jobs. The Total Package